Why Is Gaming Bad On Mac
Let’s get this out of the way: Macs are not ideal for gaming. If you want a computer to mainly play video games, you’ll be better off with a Windows tower.
- Mar 12, 2017 Can You Play Games on a Mac? Macs are made of the same components as any other PC. They’re just an Intel x86 computer in a fancier case with a different operating system. This means there’s no real hardware barrier to gaming on a Mac. It’s not like a PC has some magic video game component that your Mac lacks.
- Mar 18, 2015 That’s why I’ve put together this guide to gaming on the Mac, covering everything from the best Mac hardware for gaming, to using Windows Boot Camp, to the mice and keyboards you should buy.
- Jan 20, 2018 The Graphic-Engine in Sierra is bad too atm. Even Heartstone stutters in Mac OS and i got a vega 64. Apple should have done their homework before advertising the new imac for gaming. It doesn´t nearly meet the expectations. Beware: The modified drivers from bootcamp.com speed up the gaming performance but they cause other problems atm.
- Apr 24, 2011 with a mac pro, you will be paying atleast $1200 for an eh system, which isn't exactly bad, but not worth the money. With a PC, at $1200, you can get a MUCH better system, with better graphics card, ram, etc. Only that it'll be a PC and not a mac.
But you knew that already. If you’re here, it’s because you want a Mac. Heck, maybe you need one for work or school. But does that mean you’ll have to give up on gaming altogether? Not at all.
Depending on which Mac you decide to go for, playing video games can range from decent to great. If you’re thinking about getting a new Mac, the question isn’t Can I play games on Mac? but What is the best Mac for gaming?
This led to Mac purchasers not buying their computers for gaming, which meant a continuously low number of Mac dedicated gamers, and you had a vicious cycle where game authoring companies went where the money and customers for gaming are: PC's and consoles, leaving Mac users out in the cold.
Taking into account Apple prefers slim form factors and uses integrated graphics whenever possible, it goes without saying Macs are not designed for gaming. That said, many can get the job done. We benchmarked over 50+ gaming Macs and some are surprisingly capable gaming machines.
We’re here to show you which ones are true Apple gaming computers and which ones you should stay away from. And it doesn’t matter whether you’re looking for a laptop or a desktop. We cover both.
| Model | ★ Best Overall | Best MacBook | Best Value |
| Processor | 3.4 GHz Intel Core i5 | 2.2 GHz Intel Core i7 | 3.0 GHz Intel Core i5 |
| Graphics | Radeon Pro 570 | Radeon Pro 555X | Radeon Pro 555 |
| RAM | 8 GB | 16 GB | 8 GB |
| Release date | June 2017 | July 2018 | July 2018 |
| Our rating | ★★★★★ | ★★★★☆ | ★★★★☆ |
| Price | $1,799 | $2,399 | $1,299 |
Last updated: March 28, 2019
A lot has changed since this guide was originally published in July 2018. Every Mac model has been upgraded with faster internals with some models receiving entirely new redesigns (such as the MacBook Air and Mac Mini).
All this additional processing power forced us to adapt. Instead of continuing to use Tomb Raider and GRID 2, we decided to replace them with the newer and more demanding Rise of the Tomb Raider and DiRT Rally and see how well Apple’s latest Macs can handle modern gaming.
Most articles covering the best Macs for gaming settle with listing all the models available and conclude the obvious:
- You should stay away from integrated graphics.
- And get the Mac with the most expensive graphics card you can afford.
We take a slightly different approach. We ran benchmarks on every single model Apple currently sells, including the latest iMacs; MacBook Airs and Mac Minis, and show you which ones deliver the best gaming performance, offer the best bang for the buck or both.
Expand to see the specs of every machine we tested
Real-world benchmarks
Standard benchmarks such as Geekbench could be a good start, but if we aim to accurately chose the best Macs for gaming, we have to use actual video games. For that purpose, we decided to go with Feral Interactive’s DiRT Rally and Rise of the Tomb Raider, two graphically impressive and demanding games released in 2017 and 2018 respectively.
Our first version of this guide was created using the older Tomb Raider and GRID 2, but as Macs keep receiving updates and performance improvements, so our test games needed to be upgraded too.
We used the following settings:
- 1280×800 or equivalent resolution
- Medium/Normal Graphics Settings
- VSync: Off
- Anti-Aliasing: FXAA (Rise of the Tomb Raider)
- Multisampling: Off (DiRT Rally)
And then used the in-game benchmarking toolsMac football teams bowl games. for both games to ensure identical testing conditions on all machines.
This is how each machine performed in FPS (in frames per second):
Glancing at these results is enough to see that some Macs can be good gaming machines. You just need to choose the right model. The same universal truths that apply to Windows gaming apply here too:
- Desktops offer better performance
- Graphics cards are the main driver of good gaming performance.
With that in mind, it’s not surprising the 27-inch iMacs and iMac Pro with high-end graphics are the fastest:
Expand to see how to interpret these results
For your reference, this is how we describe the different levels of performance (in frames per second):
| Below 20 FPS | Unplayable | Laggy gameplay, full of stutters and slowdowns. |
| 20-30 FPS | Borderline | Can be Ok in slow paced games. Still, not optimal. |
| 30-45 FPS | Playable | Acceptable for most (most gaming consoles do this). |
| 45-60 FPS | Smooth | Fluid gameplay, with no perceivable stutters. |
| 60+ FPS | Very Smooth | For hardcore and professional players, a luxury for most. |

If you’re serious about gaming, your best bet is the 27-inch iMac. The base model with a 4 GB Radeon Pro 570 delivers great performance and has a reasonable price-tag ($1,799).
Don’t get me wrong, an iMac isn’t cheap. But when you take built-quality, an amazing monitor, and performance into account, the 27-inch iMac delivers a lot of value.
If this Mac can run Rise of the Tomb Raider at an impressive 80.9 FPS and DiRT Rally at a baffling 123.4 FPS, it should be able to run anything you throw at it, including all the latest games at 1080p resolution and high settings.
Gaming On Mac Os
Running our games at 102.2 FPS (frames per second) on average, this iMac offers both great performance and the best bang for the buck we’ve seen so far:
If you take a closer look at the $ per FPS (Dollar per Frame) column, the iMac family offers by far the best value for money when it comes to gaming performance.
To be fair, at $19 per FPS, the 21-inch 4K iMac also offers great value and good performance (it can run both games just fine). If you can only afford the 21-inch model, go for it, it is the best Apple gaming computer under $1,500. But if you can come up with the extra $300, the base model 27-inch iMac will take you further.
And if you have an even bigger budget, consider upgrading the 27-inch iMac’s graphics card. More on that below.
PS: A big thank you to Didier from Mac4Ever for providing results for the brand-new iMacs (released this week!).
The 27-inch iMac is the best Apple desktop for gaming, with the 21-inch iMac coming at a close second. But other desktop alternatives exist. Should they be completely discarded as decent gaming Macs?
iMac Pro gaming
The iMac Pro is the most powerful Mac available right now, surpassing even the infamous Mac Pro. That should make it an ideal gaming machine, right?
It goes without saying the iMac Pro is fast. In fact, if you’re a professional in need of raw power for video or 3D graphics editing, this is probably the Mac for you. But when it comes to gaming,
What gives? Professional applications such as Final Cut are optimized to take full advantage of everything the iMac Pro has to offer but most games don’t. That means a lot of the raw power the iMac Pro has to offer will be wasted on most games.
So, is the iMac Pro good for gaming? Unless your job demands it, the iMac Pro is overkill. You’ll be better off with an upgraded 27-inch iMac. It will be significantly cheaper while offering even better gaming performance.
Mac Mini gaming
After literally years without receiving a meaningful update, the Mac Mini seemed to be as good as dead. Apple took its time but it finally released the long-awaited New Mac Mini in late 2018.
The update brought huge performance improvements but also a significant price jump. Previously $499, the base model is now $799. The new Mac Mini may no longer be a “cheap” Apple computer, but at least it finally delivers good performance.
With an Intel 8th-gen Coffee Lake processor and Intel UHD Graphics 630 integrated card, the new Mac Mini is capable of decent gaming. It can run DiRT Rally at a good 46 FPS but it struggles running the graphically intensive Rise of the Tomb Raider at only 16 FPS.
So, is the Mac Mini good for gaming? While appealing because it’s so much cheaper than an iMac, the Mac Mini does not have the horsepower required by the latest and greatest games. Plus, you’ll also have to buy a monitor to use it (same goes for the Mac Pro). That said, a new Mac Mini + eGPU is probably the best gaming setup one could get. More on that below.
Mac Pro gaming
The current Mac Pro was supposed to revolutionize desktop computing. It didn’t. I won’t go into the whole story, but the Mac Pro was a failure and you should stay away from it too.
The iMac Pro was partially released to help Apple recover from that disaster and a new Mac Pro is coming… eventually. In the meantime, the current Mac Pro is overpriced and not that fast. With 80.7 FPS on average and a $2,999 price tag, an iMac is a cheaper and faster choice.
So, is the Mac Pro good for gaming? For the record, a Mac Pro is a capable gaming machine. It has what it takes to run even the most demanding games. It’s just not good value for money. If you have the money for a Mac Pro, and aren’t in a rush, wait for the new Mac Pro. If you need a new Mac now, an upgraded 27-inch iMac or iMac Pro are the way to go.
The best MacBook for gaming: The 15-inch MacBook Pro
Apple offers several MacBook models ranging from the cheaper (and recently updated) MacBook Air to the shiny new MacBook Pro (MBP) with a touch bar.
Each MacBook line serves a purpose, but if you’re looking for a capable gaming machine, the 15-inch MacBook Pro is the top choice. The entry 15-inch MBP with a Radeon Pro 555X ran our test games at an average 73.7 FPS. Not as fast as an iMac, but more than enough for the average gamer.
In fact, it has the power to comfortably run most modern games at 1080) and Medium settings.

This is how the 15-inch MBP compares with the other MacBooks offered by Apple:
At $2,399, the entry 15-inch MacBook Pro isn’t the fastest nor the cheapest. Why do we still think it’s the best Apple gaming laptop? Because it offers the best value for money. The other MacBooks are more affordable but their gaming capabilities are too limited. Looking at the $ per FPS (Dollars per Frame) column, the 15-inch MBP offers the best bang for the buck at $33 per Frame and 73.7 FPS on average.
As can be expected, the graphics card you chose will make all the difference. For example, an upgraded 15-inch MBP with a Radeon Pro 560X is also $33 per Frame but delivers more performance at 85 FPS on average. That said, the total price can quickly get out of hand… More on that below.
So, are MacBooks good for gaming? Some of them certainly are. But most MacBooks only have integrated graphics and that is a problem when it comes to playing video games.
PS: No matter which MacBook you end up buying, you should get started with one of our Top 20 MacBook games.
13-inch MacBook Pro gaming
What if you don’t have over $2,000 to put into a laptop? You can always get a 13-inch MacBook Pro. It won’t be as fast as a 15-inch model, but it’s $500 cheaper.
For $1,799, you can get the touch bar version with an Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655. With an average of 44.3 FPS, expect decent gaming performance except for on very demanding games (such as Rise of the Tomb Raider, which this Mac can only run at 19.5 FPS).
The 13-inch non-touch bar version may be cheaper but it probably be updated (or discontinued) soon. Unless you see it on sale, you should stay away from it.
So, is a 13-inch MacBook Pro good for gaming? If you can’t afford a 15-inch MBP, the touch bar 13-inch model is a good compromise. If won’t be as fast but it can certainly handle most modern games on Medium settings.
MacBook Air gaming (13-inch)
The MacBook Air (MBA) also received a huge update a few months ago. It may not be as cheap as it used to be (now $1,199 instead of $999) but it’s still the most affordable Mac laptop available.
Performance wise, it averages only 21.2 FPS on average, but that’s still surprisingly good for such a thin and sleek laptop. Don’t get me wrong, the list of games for MacBook Air is limited but still bigger than expected. DiRT Rally, for example, runs at 32 FPS which is more than enough to have an enjoyable experience (Rise of the Tomb Raider on the other hand barely runs at all).
So, is a MacBook Air good for gaming? The new MacBook Air wasn’t built for gaming so don’t be surprised if you can’t play all the latest and greatest on it. That said, it can still handle many popular games.
MacBook gaming (12-inch)
The 12-inch MacBook is an impressive machine. It’s so thin and small, it makes the MacBook Air feel bloated. Seeing it for the first time felt like catching a glimpse of the future.
The future is always exciting but it’s rarely a good value for money. The 12-inch MacBook is impressive and disappointing at the same time. Its form factor, size, and weight are spectacular but its performance is mediocre. And that is obviously not good for games. With a $1,549 price tag, this machine offers the worst bang for the buck.
So, is a MacBook good for gaming? The 12-inch MacBook is a very specific product made for very specific needs. Get it if you need extreme mobility but don’t count on it when it comes to playing the occasional game while on the road.
A top of the line 27-inch iMac or 15-inch MacBook Pro can both be excellent gaming machines, but I’m sure you noticed one big downside: their price tags.
Fitting powerful graphics into a slim machine has always been an expensive challenge, but the rise of eGPUs is slowly changing the game. Short for “external graphics card”, an eGPU lets you connect a full-sized graphics card into a Mac via the high-speed Thunderbolt 3 connection.
This is what Apple Insider‘s Mac eGPU setup looks like:
A Mac + eGPU combo can be cheaper and faster, and with High Sierra eGPU’s improvements, the setup is quick and simple. But buying an eGPU enclosure and a high-end graphics card is also expensive so buying the right components is key.
Let’s take for example the latest 2018 Mac Mini. On average, it runs our test games at 31 FPS for a cost of $35 per FPS. With different combinations of eGPU enclosures and graphics cards, that cost can dramatically get as low as $16 per FPS:
These are the components we used for our tests:
- Sonnet eGFX Breakaway Puck enclosure including a Radeon RX 570 ($499)
- AKiTiO Node enclosure ($230) + MSI Radeon RX 580 ARMOR MK2 ($230)
- AKiTiO Node Pro enclosure ($370) + MSI Radeon RX Vega 56 ($330)
To keep these comparisons as fair as possible, $400 were added to the total cost of all Mac Minis to cover the cost of a good monitor (all the other Macs, except the Mac Pro, have a monitor included) such as the 27-inch HP Z27n G2.
Bottom line: A Mac Mini coupled with an affordable eGPU enclosure and a Radeon RX 580 is both an excellent gaming machine and the best value for money you can have with a Mac computer. For the price of a base 27-inch iMac, you can get an upgradable setup that delivers more performance.
PS: A big thank you to Rob-Art from Bare Feats for testing several of the newer models for us (including all these Mac Mini eGPU setups!).
You now have a good idea of which Mac is right for you. But what about those upgrades Apple offers? You already know that some upgrades are more important than others when it comes to gaming. Also, some upgrades can only be performed by Apple while others you can do yourself for less money.
So which upgrades are worth it?
Graphics
It goes without saying that the faster your graphics card, the better your games will run. Unfortunately, graphics can rarely be upgraded on the base models. You’ll often have to choose the higher end model and then upgrade the graphics furthermore if you want.
For example, you can’t upgrade the Radeon Pro 570 graphics on a 27-inch iMac. You’ll have to choose the more expensive iMac model that comes with a faster processor, a bigger hard drive and a Radeon Pro 580. That will cost you $500 more. According to our results, that upgrade will result in a 26% boost in performance (going from 102 to 128 FPS on average) and roughly the same bang for the buck ($18 per FPS).
To take another example, if you chose the high-end 15-inch MacBook Pro with a Radeon Pro 560X, you can upgrade the graphics to Radeon Pro Vega 16 for an extra $250. That will result in 20% more performance (going from 85 to 102.5 FPS on average) and a slightly better value for money (going from $33 per FPS to $30 per FPS).
Bottom line: Upgrading the graphics card will always result in better gaming performance and slightly better value, but that will cost you up front.
Processor
If gaming is important to you, prioritize upgrading your graphics instead of your processor. Some games are sensitive to faster processors, but the vast majority will benefit more from an upgraded GPU.
To give you an example, a 15-inch MacBook Pro with an upgraded processor (a top of the line Intel Core i9) is only 0.5 FPS faster than the Intel Core i7 model but costs $300 more. That’s a lot of money for a barely noticeable improvement. Many applications will certainly benefit from an Intel Core i9 but most games won’t…
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RAM
More RAM is always good, even if it will never have a significant impact on gaming (unless you have very little RAM, to begin with).
Unfortunately upgrading RAM on a Mac is extremely expensive. There was a time when most Macs could be upgraded by users for a fraction of the price, but those days are over.
You can’t upgrade the RAM yourself in any of the current models except the 21-inch iMacs, the 27-inch iMacs, and the Mac Pros. If you want one of these models, upgrade the RAM yourself. Otherwise, I don’t recommend paying for an upgrade from Apple.
It wasn’t easy choosing the best Apple machines among the several models available. As our target is to give you an unbiased and complete overview of the best Macs for gaming, we had to use multiple criteria to ensure things stay as objective and comparable as possible:
Raw Performance (FPS)
It’s no secret our most important criteria was performance. After all, modern video games require a decent amount of raw power. RAM and a speedy processor are certainly important, but for most games, a powerful graphics card will make the most difference.
It goes without saying that a dedicated graphics card will result in a much better gaming experience than an integrated card. Also, the more powerful the graphics card, the faster the game will run. But while most guides make do with simply listing the most powerful cards available, we ran real-world tests on games.
As you can see from our results, we used the frames per second metric to evaluate and compare the different machines we tested. That information should give you a realistic and accurate idea of how well each machine can run modern games.
Value for money
We could simply list the Macs with the most powerful graphics card and call it a day. Or we could test all current Macs and just recommend the ones with the highest FPS.
But if we stopped there, we would be ignoring a critical factor: money. Most of us can’t afford a $5,000 iMac Pro. We all have limited budgets and are forced to always be in the lookout for the best value for money. That’s why every model was evaluated taking both performance and value into account.
To keep things in check, we calculated a Dollars per Frame (total number of frames divided by the machine’s price tag) figure for each machine. That should help you easily compare the value each machine delivers in terms of gaming potential.
Date since updated
The last factor we took into account was the number of days since each model was last updated. We can’t recommend a machine if the risk of it becoming obsolete in just a few months is high.
To keep track of the days since each model was updated, we used MacRumors’ famous guide:
MacRumors guide is impressive, but you should always take their recommendations with a grain salt. Their recommendations only take into account the days since the machines were last updated, regardless whether the update was significant or not.
We hope we’ve made choosing your next Mac much easier. We could have taken the easy way out and just listed graphics cards and made recommendations based on that. But we decided to do it right and take into account the different needs you may have.
Whatever your needs, gaming and otherwise, we have you covered.
And by the way, this guide wouldn’t have been possible without the precious help from Rob-Art from Barefeats.com, Didier from Mac4Ever and several Mac Gamer HQ readers. Thanks a lot, guys!
Don’t hesitate to share this with a friend looking for a new Mac! And finally, make sure you bookmark this guide. It will be updated every time Apple releases a new machine!
Why Is Gaming Bad On Mac Computer
I don't care that nobody will probably read this. I don't care that most who do will be either crapple supporters or PC supporters, and you will either agree or flame denial at me.
All I want, is the opportunity for someone to read my eloquent as fark summary on some reasons why a PC will always kick the ass out of a mac. I won't be replying to comments made. I wrote this to post as a response to someone else's rather inarticulate article about why mac's suck. Mostly in support, but also to teach better spelling/grammar.
Here it is, to anybody who cares.
Firstly, the overpricing issue:
I built a high end PC for $800 (with a 25 inch monitor). It's not high end any more, but I did this at least a year ago.
It's still good.
Specs are as follows -
core i8 2.4ghz
8MB DDR4 Ram 1200Mhz
7700 Radeon HD
2x 1TB HDD
Benchmarking shows my PC runs almost any game on super-max settings with at least 35 fps. It's not perfect, sometimes may need to bump antialiasing or anisotropy down from 24xeq down to 16x and 8x to 4x respectively. But hey no biggie there, barely notice the difference.
Do that on your mac worth nearly 3x as much and don't really even come close to pulling the same frames/settings ratio.
That's a win. Not a small one either.
Next, let's tackle the 'virus issue' a.k.a. the go-to excuse for mac idiots when they're inevitably losing their debate as to what is superior.
Now, I'm a higher end user than most, so I'm not going to say anyone who doesn't know as much about running windows cleanly as me is dumb.
But.
When you get infected (and really, if you pirate stuff or get things for free using pirated software/torrents etc. you will eventually run into malware of some form), all you have to do is, backup important data, format, reinstall OS/drivers, and continue. It's rarely more than that.
Not that this process is different on a mac, but I worked tech support for IBM, who has the account for tech support on all mac products (most anyway from iPad/iPhone to macbook and whatnot.) and my experience is this: Customer has an OS issue, who knows how it started, people are NEVER honest when they call tech support, because they think if the problem caused was their fault, they have to pay (protip, you do, it's true).
So their system is locked up or all messed up and basically not functioning.
Me to customer 'ok sir, we're going to do a backup and restore, it's a simple process' (trained to say that btw even though it rarely ever IS that simple)
We start out strong, files are backed up, computer basically re installs it's own OS (don't get me wrong, I like that part, finding windows discs IS a pain in the @$$) but somewhere between re installing the OS and moving files back over, some sh!t inevitably goes wrong, and now we need you to find your closest apple store (oh what, you live in the country, you don't say. Are you willing to drive 4 hours to your closest mac store? yes? great.) They call us back and the problem apparently was so serious they need to keep the damn thing and mail it back - half the time they're back on to tech support within a week with a similar issue, ie; not fixed, not really.
OR
They need to mail it in, because they can't get to, or are unwilling to travel to, the closest mac store. That's a pain, right?
Often, in between the finding and getting your system TO a mac store, your apple care has lapsed. It's ok though, you can extend your apple care, so long as it hasn't been lapsed for longer than a few weeks. It's only another hundred bucks though, right? no biggie.
Except that the fault the 'geniuses' found, was user caused.
So now you're being billed another $250 for services. (apple tech staff, by the way, are trained to equate practically any problem down to user error/misuse). Ever kept your iPhone in your handbag? Ever been outside while it's raining? (don't lie, you so f*cking have) Well you've tripped the moisture sensor with humidity. Cha-ching. More cash for apple.
So let's say you don't encounter ANY more problems with this process (and I've seen a 'tech support then repair' loop with no joke, 8 or so rotations of; call in, diagnose problem, pay to fix problem, repeat). Cha, f*cking ching.
You're still out at least 3 days with no computer because of your tiny little issue, you've paid out nearly 400 dollars, and likely, when you get your piece of crapple (see what I did there?) back, your files are gone.
My pc? If I REALLY can't figure out the issue, $80 bucks to the local PC store and it's fixed. My files are safe, even if deleted/formatted, they're totally recoverable. Easily. Just TRY keeping my pc for 3 days, I will burn your store to the ground because that is UNACCEPTABLE. For some reason, it's fine if it's a mac though.
PC win. Just. it just is.
Now, the issue about keyboard/mouse/general OS difficulty.
On my windows machine, I open a window, I browse my files. Stuff is easy as hell to find. The file tree and the way it's laid out, just makes sense. Can't find it? just do a search. Bingo, there it is.
My mother wanted to find where she'd saved a something or other on her mac, so I ask her, where do your documents save by default.
She said 'I think, it's here' and took 5 minutes in finder (the worst thing I've ever seen EVER) to navigate to her typical documents folder, the windows equivalent of, clicking 'My Documents' on the start menu. (I'm sure there is an easier way but she's a typical aged mac fanatic, can't learn new stuff so good but refuses to use a windows machine, even though the learning is easier by far).
But it wasn't there. So now, I have to go through finder and try to navigate the file tree. Now, it's not that much different REALLY in the way it's structured, but you tell me why it took me damn near all day to find my way to wherever the hell it ended up saving, because the search turned up either a: nothing or b: practically everything.
We decided at that point, to just move all the offending documents scattered across the four winds to her typical 'Documents' style folder.
Attempted what I thought would be a cut and paste. Nope, copied the files, gotta go back and delete them. Ok, that sucks, but I know where it all is now, so no big whoop.
She (being a mac advocate who knows nothing) is all, OH why don't you just click and drag? huh. HUH!
So fine, not wanting to have another argument with her over why her system sucks, winning, and not getting my birthday money bc 'I'm such a smart ass', I tried it.
Oh dear. We didn't arrange our open windows in exactly the right way so that we could just bam drop them right into where they are meant to go. Sh!t is flying across the screen as I feebly attempt to navigate to the open folder where stuff is going. Try again, put the origin folder on the left, the destination folder on the right, highlight, click and drag, release.
What's this? duplicates? didn't we just deal with this issue?
Are you telling me, there is NO cut and paste? Copy and paste sure but NO cut and paste? Only copy and paste and delete and then delete again (because putting crap in the recycle bin doesn't even MOVE the offending file away, just 'tags' it for deletion). Damn those sly apple bastards. No wonder people with macs spend all their time on them, it takes three times longer just to do something simple. I've no doubt an experienced mac user could do it in ten seconds, totally admitting that. But a novice PC user could do the same on a PC. My 4 year old can do it on a PC.
Why do we need to be experts to move files around. Simpler OS my Australian bum.
Another issue; how to right click on the default apple mouse (you know the robot hamburger, as my son calls it, looks like a white plastic burger patty).
Oh it's easy, boasts my mother, you just hit command (or control or apple symbol or freaking something, I don't recall) and click, then it gives you a menu. Ok fine a stupid system but not insurmountable. How about deleting stuff then. Couldn't be simpler, says my mother, you just *whatever button* click it, hit delete, go into the recycle bin (Or is it called trash can? can never remember) empty it, get an error saying the file is in use, try in vain to close the offending program, get annoyed, call someone who knows, not be able to follow their instructions because of it being needlessly complex, happen upon a brain aneurism, die, and go to heaven, which has nothing but PC's. And never encounter this problem again.
Same deal trying to uninstall something, won't go into it again, literally, exactly the same process.
Why have so many function keys to do such simple things?
The most complex key sequence in windows is good old ctrl + alt + delete, for task manager, the program killer. Right click end process bam just TRY and not close you biatch. (don't even get me started on trying to close stuff on a mac. Roll a d6. If it lands on a number, your program will fail to close properly.)
On my windows machine, I highlight and hit delete (sends to recycle bin), I empty the recycle bin, and it goes away. I have never (I repeat, ad infinitum, NEVER EVER EVER) found a file to be in use while in the bin.
OR
I just shift + delete the files, bypasses the bin and *poof* away they go.
Oh snap, deleted the wrong thing, well then let's just recover the files. Because they're not gone until you've written over that part of the hard disk.
Won't go into this too far, but, the damn beach ball style 'your computer is busy' icon. You know. The scourge of your existence.
Open iTunes. Beach ball. At least 5 minutes of summer beach fun.
Try to close it. Once again. Someone get a volleyball net. We'll be here a while.
Save an important document, helloo, you need to work on your tan, we're providing you with this lovely beach ball, free of charge. No you can't use your computer while you have the ball, don't be antisocial, get out there and play! This response is long enough, so I won't give any particular long winded examples of this.
So, for my money, once again, it's a PC win.
Lastly, a small section on the ability to upgrade your mac/PC.
Short answer, PC yes, cheaply. Easily. So cheaply and SO easily.
Mac, kinda. Very expensive for not much and also not that easy.
You also don't get your pick of parts to replace. Need more processing power on your mac? Buy a new (ridiculously overpriced) mac. Want better graphics capability for gaming? Let's assume you can even FIND more than 2 games worth playing on a mac that would need a better graphics card. What do you do?
You go out, right. You buy, get this, BUY, a whole new (omg, overpriced!) mac.
PC win. PC win win win.
Seriously, are you mac people just.. not understanding, or what? I mean. I don't get it. Logic dictates. Intelligence, dictates. Freaking unimpeachable EVIDENCE dictates.
But no. No your thing is just. it's just better.
Well.. it isn't. By a very, very wide margin.
Now on to the disclaimer (I could continue but this post is ridiculously long as it is).
As I will inevitably cop flame from you macwits (see what I did there?) for posting this, let's just get a few things straight.
I'm a mac simpleton. I just don't get them. It doesn't. Make. Sense.
Anyone who uses them frequently would certainly have less gnashing of teeth and rending of garments trying to find the document I just saved or picture I can't find. That's all well and good.
My point here, is you shouldn't NEED to be adept to operate 'the simpler OS', that's how it's marketed. And it's not true. Not for anyone.
Sure, some people setup their mac and never have issues. I mean.. I haven't heard of any, but people mention them all the time. They must exist. Right? I mean. they can't ALL be making these people up. Can they?
My experience and the reason for posting this comment/article (I'm really sorry about the wall of text, I articulate. Can't help it), is that a simpleton PC user has less problems with their windows machine than a higher level mac user has with their terrible machine.
Windows is easier to learn, it functions, sure you hit problems with software now and then, but hot damn if you can't get the 2 second answer googling the problem and fix it just as easily.
Googled a problem for a friend who had just bought a mac once, sent the link to their skype, on the PC they were looking to upgrade from.
My friend (bless his soul) tried every single god damn fix suggested and STILL didn't solve his iTunes issue. 1 month later, sold on the mac and just had me build him a cheap as hell next generation beautiful PC with the cash from the sale, and guess what. He had $700 left over to blow.
You mac people, you are zealots, you've bought into the marketing scam perpetuated by apple, and are annoyed (deep down) that you wasted money (triple what you needed for a windows machine) and time (takes at least twice as long to learn to use mac OS than windows) and don't want to admit, you were wrong. You like your club, you will defend your decision, even in the face of overwhelming evidence of the fact you dun' goofed.
You can like apple stuff if you want to. I support freedom of choice. Just stop being cultists of the church of job's. Please.
Stop shoving your crap down our throats, stop trying to convince us to be 'one of you'. You are wrong, misinformed, won't back down, and it's irritating. You're the scientologists of the tech world.
You care more about image than function.
And I know what it's like to be too proud to admit you're wrong, especially if you don't know that, because it's deep within your soul.
But you might realize it, the very next time you're handing all your excess income over to apple over a simple OS brainfart. Or you command clicked when you should have apple clicked and now your macbook is a large and unwieldy paperweight. Oh also, don't update ANYTHING until the update has been out for at least 2 months. Remember the iPhone 3.0 update that bricked the world - I was working for apple tech support then.
Special 2 week training course on how to reassure people we had NO IDEA it would do that, even though we freakin' well did know that. And how to not accept any responsibility for it on apple's part, while also not expressly blaming the customer (I could tell you some stories about that period, it was NOT graceful. But GOD did apple make some cash repairing those damn iPhones.) Just try and tell me apple isn't an evil corporation whose one true skill is marketing. Just try it.
I could so continue, but that's enough, isn't it? It's not just kicking someone after they're down.
It's kicking them after you've kicked them so much they are human fruit leather.